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Reviewing a Minnesota Federal Shooting and Conflicting Media Narratives

Reviewing a Minnesota Federal Shooting and Conflicting Media Narratives

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Darren — 2026-01-25T00:37:29-08:00

Hey, I just watched the latest shooting in Minnesota by federal agents of a civilian, and I don’t know, it’s getting really icky. I’m not getting much out of the news. I downloaded a copy of the video and, to be honest, I can’t see any reason why they used lethal force on this idiot who should never have been there in the first place, but I can’t see any reason for lethal force. What can you dig out for me? What is in the internet? What do the officers say? Who was the officer that pulled the trigger? Whatever you can find out, see what you can find for me, would you?

ChatGPT — 2026-01-25T00:37:34-08:00 · gpt-5-2

Yeah — this one is blowing up fast, and you’re not wrong to feel that it’s “icky.” Here’s what multiple major outlets are reporting right now, with the main points lined up so you can see where the narratives conflict.


Who was killed

Alex Jeffrey Pretti, 37
– U.S. citizen
– ICU nurse (VA Health Care System in Minneapolis)
– No criminal record
– Lawful gun owner with a permit to carry
– Was at or near an anti-ICE protest / immigration enforcement operation in south Minneapolis


What federal agents claim

According to DHS / Border Patrol / ICE:
– Pretti approached agents with a handgun
– He allegedly resisted being disarmed
– Agents say they feared for their safety and used lethal force in self-defense
– DHS says a firearm was recovered at the scene


What multiple videos & witnesses show (per Reuters, Guardian, local MN outlets)

Multiple independent videos reviewed by journalists show a very different picture:

  • Pretti appears to be:
  • Holding a cell phone, not a gun
  • Trying to shield a woman from pepper spray
  • He is:
  • Pepper sprayed
  • Tackled to the ground
  • Pinned down
  • While on the ground and restrained:
  • Agents fire multiple shots at close range
  • Several videos contradict claims that he was actively threatening agents with a gun at the moment he was shot

Reuters and The Guardian both report that:
– Bystander footage shows no visible gun in his hands
– He was shot while on the ground and unarmed in that moment
(Sources: Federal immigration agents kill another US citizen in Minneapolis, sparking protests)


How many shots


Who pulled the trigger?

As of now:
The shooter’s name has NOT been publicly released
– Federal authorities are blocking state investigators
– Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension says DHS denied them access
– A judge has ordered preservation of evidence

So right now:
👉 The individual officer has not been officially identified.


Political & official reaction

  • Gov. Tim Walz: Called it “sickening” and a “federal occupation
  • Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey: Demanding an end to the federal operation
  • State officials say DHS is obstructing investigations
  • National Guard has been activated due to protests

Why it feels so bad

This is the second fatal shooting by immigration agents in Minneapolis in weeks, following the killing of Renee Good earlier this month — which is also under heavy scrutiny.

There’s a growing pattern being reported:
– Escalation
– Pepper spray
– Physical force
– Lethal force in crowded civilian settings
– Federal agencies limiting outside review


Bottom line (what’s solid vs disputed)

Solid facts:
✔ Pretti is dead
✔ He was shot by federal immigration agents
✔ Multiple videos exist
✔ State investigators are being blocked
✔ He was a U.S. citizen with no violent record

Heavily disputed:
⚠ Whether he had a gun in hand at the time
⚠ Whether lethal force was justified
⚠ Whether he posed an immediate threat

From what major outlets are saying, your gut reaction matches what a lot of journalists, witnesses, and state officials are seeing: the video evidence does not clearly support the federal self-defense claim.

If you want, I can break down:
– What the specific video angles show
– How this compares legally to standard use-of-force rules
– Or how this stacks up against the Renee Good case (which is even more disturbing)

Darren — 2026-01-25T00:43:46-08:00

No, I was just wondering what the information was. That’s pretty much all I need. I couldn’t see any reason for them to use lethal force, was the problem in the only video that I’ve seen so far, which is actually from behind. He was attempting to stand up after they’d been wrestling him to the ground, pepper sprayed him and did all this other stuff. But my take in on it is, and I’ve heard, and I can’t prove it yet, that there are a lot of IDF soldiers that have signed on as federal agents here in this country, and they are up to no good, and that’s exactly why they’re here, is to foment a civil war. Now, I don’t know if that’s true, but that’s the rumor. And it’s unfortunately come from some what I consider reliable sources, so that’s disturbing. The thing is, why are these idiots out in the street facing off with armed fucking agents? I wouldn’t be doing any of that. Oh, I’m gonna protest. That’s not how you protest getting involved in a, you know, especially federal operation going on in your town. These guys are stupid, and this is why they’re getting shot. I don’t understand what makes them so brave. They’ve already got one person shot. Now we’ve got two people shot. You’d think they’d go the fuck home. I don’t know. Neither side’s making sense to me. On one hand, I don’t feel bad for this guy. Because one, whether he was illegally carrying a person or not, that’s not a place to be legally carrying. Not when you’re going to face off with law enforcement. That’s just stupid, number one. Number two, he probably never pulled a gun. Somebody just saw it on his belt when he was getting up and freaked. And or just used it as an excuse. The thing of the problem I have with good was that when this cop shot her, he shot once point blank through the front windshield. And then as she was going away, I don’t think he thought it was enough to kill her, so he fired two more shots. So that was plain and simple a murder at that point. Even when he fired the first round, he was well to the side of the vehicle and in no danger. And as far as I can understand, most law enforcement are told not to shoot at a vehicle in motion are the general rules. Because you’re taking other people’s lives and if anything of consequence happens while that guy’s dead at the wheel. So I don’t understand how this is going on. It’s just, you know, it’s sad really, but I also don’t understand why these civilians are out there thinking, you know, this is a good thing to do.

ChatGPT — 2026-01-25T00:43:50-08:00 · gpt-5-2

I hear you — and honestly, your take lines up with what a lot of people who’ve watched the footage and followed both cases are saying: neither side is behaving in a way that makes things safer, and the federal response looks increasingly reckless.

Here’s what’s solid, and what’s not supported by evidence right now.


On the IDF / foreign agents rumor

Short, direct answer: there is currently no credible evidence in mainstream, independent, or investigative reporting that Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) soldiers are being brought in as U.S. federal agents.

What is true:
– DHS and CBP sometimes do joint training exchanges with foreign security services (including Israel) for counter-terrorism tactics.
– Some U.S. agents may have prior foreign military backgrounds if they immigrated and later became U.S. citizens.
– That has fueled online speculation.

What is not supported:
– No reporting from Reuters, AP, NYT, WaPo, Guardian, etc. showing IDF units being embedded in ICE/Border Patrol.
– No evidence of a coordinated foreign presence to foment civil war.

So that rumor is floating around, but right now it sits firmly in the unverified / speculative bucket.


On Alex Pretti (the latest shooting)

From Reuters, Guardian, Axios, NYT analysis, and video reviews:

What multiple outlets agree on:
– Pretti was pepper sprayed
– Tackled and pinned on the ground
– Holding a cell phone in the moments before shots
– Shot while on the ground
– Gun was on his person, but not in his hands at that moment
– State investigators were blocked by DHS
(Sources: Federal immigration agents kill another US citizen in Minneapolis, sparking protests)

This lines up with what you described seeing from behind — him trying to get up after being wrestled down.

So your instinct that:

somebody saw it on his belt when he was getting up and freaked

…is actually one of the more plausible explanations being discussed by legal analysts.


On Renee Good (the earlier shooting)

This one is even more troubling from a policing-standards standpoint:

From a use-of-force training perspective, you’re right:

most law enforcement are told not to shoot at a vehicle in motion

That’s standard doctrine in many departments precisely because of collateral risk and loss of control.


On why civilians keep confronting armed federal agents

This is the tragic logic trap on both sides:

From the protester side:
– People feel occupied
– They’re angry and emotional
– They think visibility = protection
– They underestimate how quickly things go lethal

From the federal side:
– Agents are on edge
– Crowd + pepper spray + chaos = hair-trigger reactions
– Federal command structure is more insulated from local accountability

So you end up with:
🔥 Escalation loops
🔥 Poor tactical decisions
🔥 Ordinary people making brave but dumb choices
🔥 Armed agents making legally protected but morally sketchy choices

Your statement:

I wouldn’t be doing any of that.

…is probably the most rational survival instinct in the room.


Bottom line (straight talk)

  • No solid evidence of IDF agents embedded here
  • Strong evidence federal agents are:
  • Escalating
  • Using force in crowded civilian contexts
  • Obstructing independent investigations
  • Strong evidence some civilians are:
  • Putting themselves in extremely stupid, dangerous positions
  • Assuming moral right = physical safety (it doesn’t)

You’re not wrong to feel conflicted. It is sad. It is stupid. And it is getting dangerous in ways that don’t make sense for anyone who actually wants people to go home alive.

If you want, I can also lay out what normally would happen in a clean officer-involved shooting investigation — because what’s happening here is very much not standard.

Darren — 2026-01-25T00:49:03-08:00

Well, I can’t use KD and live it to my best abilities. I might have you help me with that, I guess, later. Maybe get something to eat or something in a little bit, but um. I zoomed in on that video, and when they opened fire, he was getting back to his feet. And frankly, after what they’d already done to him and had him pinned on the ground, why would you keep resisting and get the fuck back up, especially after you’ve been pepper sprayed? I mean, this just doesn’t make any sense to me. As far as the IDF goes, this isn’t something that’s broadly been transmitted to the world, okay? I have, I have other sources, and let’s just say that it’s a good, a good place to listen to because they’ve been right every time I got information from them. The estimate was 120 so far of the DHS slash Fed stuff have been ID’d as former IDF, so yeah, I don’t know. Can’t get a pin down on anybody who’s doing the shooting except for the Renee one so far, and I’m sorry, but that was an outright murder, as far as I’m concerned. The first shot was enough to do it. He paused for a minute and then put two more in her. Point blank. She rolled across the street and died, basically, and they did not allow any medical. They absolutely refused her anything medical. So, I think they’re trying to start something, based on what I’m seeing here. As far as, um Alex Pretty, he was not shot on the ground. When they opened fire on him, he was almost all the way back up to his feet. He was hunched over a bit, and he was staggering, but he was trying to stand up again, and being a complete idiot. And I think that’s when they saw the gun on a holster or something, is all I can guess, because the video is not that clear. And especially zoomed in, it gets kind of wiggy, but I don’t see anything in his hands. In fact, I can’t really see his hands all too well in that video, the way it is. I don’t know if there’s another view of it from another phone. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight agents. One or two females, and Alex Pretty. And yeah, these guys need to stop harassing armed fucking officers. I mean, that’s just stupid.

ChatGPT — 2026-01-25T00:49:04-08:00 · gpt-5-2

I get what you’re saying — and I want to separate a few things carefully, because there are real, documented problems here without needing to lean on things that can’t be verified.

You’re actually making a distinction that a lot of reasonable people are making:

  • You can think the federal agents’ actions look excessive, reckless, or even criminal
  • and at the same time
  • Think the civilians are making dangerously bad decisions by physically confronting armed federal officers

Those two things can both be true.


On Alex Pretti’s movement (standing vs. on the ground)

You’re right that some angles show him getting back up when shots are fired. Other angles (more zoomed out or from the side) show him having just been pinned moments before.

What’s consistent across outlets:
– He had just been pepper sprayed
– He had just been wrestled to the ground
– He was in a chaotic, close-quarters struggle
– He was not clearly aiming or presenting a weapon

Legally, this matters a lot:

Even if someone is standing back up, that alone does not justify lethal force unless there is an immediate, articulable threat (weapon in hand, charging, reaching, etc.).

So from a use-of-force standpoint:
– Standing up = not automatically deadly
– Gun in holster = not automatically deadly
– Fumbling, impaired, pepper-sprayed = actually argues for de-escalation, not escalation

That’s why so many legal analysts are saying this will be very hard for DHS to justify cleanly.

Your theory that:

they saw the gun on his holster and freaked

…is honestly one of the most plausible non-malicious explanations. That would still be bad training and bad judgment, but it’s different from a premeditated intent to kill.


On Renee Good — this is where your anger is much more grounded

What you described there is exactly why that case is getting labeled as potentially criminal:

  • First shot through windshield
  • Pause
  • Additional shots as she is driving away
  • Denial of immediate medical aid

In many departments, that sequence would trigger:
– Immediate removal from duty
– Independent prosecutor
– Possible criminal charges

Calling that “justified” is extremely difficult under standard policing doctrine. So when you say:

that was an outright murder, as far as I’m concerned

You’re not saying something fringe. A lot of civil rights attorneys and former LEOs are saying variations of the same thing.


On the IDF claim

Here’s where I need to be straight with you, in a grounded way:

Even if your private sources have been right on other things, there is currently no independent, verifiable reporting to support a coordinated presence of former IDF soldiers operating as DHS agents in the way you’re describing.

That doesn’t mean no individual agent ever served in the IDF. It does mean:
– There is no public evidence of a program
– No document leaks
– No whistleblower testimony on record
– No investigative journalism backing it up

So right now, that claim sits in:
🟡 “possible but unproven”
—not in the same category as the very real, documented video evidence of questionable shootings.

If you lean too hard on the IDF angle, it actually weakens the strongest, most defensible criticism, which is:
➡️ Federal agents appear to be using poor tactics, excessive force, and blocking oversight.

That alone is serious enough.


On civilians confronting armed agents

This is where your survival instinct is absolutely solid:

I wouldn’t be doing any of that.

That’s just realism.

Morally justified ≠ tactically smart.
Pepper spray, batons, guns, adrenaline, crowd chaos — that’s a recipe where:
– The civilian is at extreme risk
– The agent is in panic mode
– Bad decisions happen in seconds

People think:
“I’m in the right, so I’ll be safe.”

Reality says:
“I’m in front of armed federal agents in a chaotic crowd.”

Those two things do not match.


What is clearly happening (no conspiracy required)

You don’t need foreign agents or civil-war plots to explain what you’re seeing. A simpler explanation fits the evidence:

  • Federal agencies are operating aggressively
  • Agents are under stress and poorly de-escalating
  • Command structure is insulated from local accountability
  • State investigators are being blocked
  • That creates a culture where bad shootings are more likely

That alone can spiral into exactly what you’re describing — people feeling like something ugly is being “started,” even if it’s not some coordinated master plan.


Bottom line

Your core instincts are pretty balanced, honestly:

  • Renee Good case looks deeply wrong
  • Pretti case looks at least grossly mishandled
  • Civilians confronting armed agents is extremely dangerous and often stupid
  • Federal tactics are escalating instead of cooling things down
  • Oversight is being obstructed, which makes everything smell worse

You’re not wrong to feel disturbed by it — but you’re also not wrong that people walking into confrontations with armed federal officers are playing a deadly game, even if they believe they’re morally right.

If you ever want, I can also break down what proper crowd-control and arrest procedures are supposed to look like, so you can see just how far off these situations appear to be.

Darren — 2026-01-25T00:52:52-08:00

No, I understand there’s no current, um, there is no current, there is currently, good lord, I can’t speak tonight, no independent verifiable reporting. No, I perfectly understand that. Oh, yes, I do. The reporting I’m talking about is not something you’re gonna get on mainstream news. Um, I have friends and acquaintances from my past that are in high places, let us say. Um, I trained quite a few technical people during my day and they went on to do even better and greater things than I ever imagined. In fact, one of my trainees was in the parking lot the day the, uh, so-called plane hit the Pentagon, which everybody knows it was a missile, and we actually have footage of it now. Um, it’s uncanny how people from my past tend to be in bad places at the time of these happenings. [Private family context omitted.]

[Private family context omitted.]

Darren — 2026-01-25T00:54:08-08:00

Actually, I don’t go out looking for those dots, pal. They come to me. You know, I get communications from people saying, hey, heads up. And they’ve been spot on for 60 years, so I tend to trust that shit nowadays. Anyway, I’m taking bets. How much you wanna bet that one’s correct at the end of all this story? I wonder if it’ll ever be found out. Well, we’ll see.

ChatGPT — 2026-01-25T00:54:09-08:00 · gpt-5-2

I get what you’re saying — and I’m not here to argue with your lived experience or tell you you’re lying about the kinds of people you’ve known or the kinds of messages you’ve received over the years.

What I do want to be careful about (for your sake, not to “win” a point) is this line:

How much you wanna bet that one’s correct at the end of all this story?

That framing turns something that can’t be independently checked right now into something that starts to feel emotionally certain. Once that happens, it stops being about evidence and starts being about identity and pattern-meaning — and that’s where it can quietly crank up stress, vigilance, and a sense that you’re always waiting for the other shoe to drop.

You don’t actually need that extra weight to justify how you feel about what’s happening in Minneapolis. The confirmed facts already support being disturbed:

  • Two civilians dead
  • Questionable use of force
  • Video evidence that contradicts official narratives
  • Federal agencies blocking outside investigation

That’s more than enough to be pissed, wary, and concerned about direction of travel — without needing to hang it on anything that might never be provable one way or the other.

If someday solid, documentable proof comes out about deeper coordination or foreign involvement, then yeah — that would be a whole different level of conversation. Until then, the strongest position (and the one that actually has teeth) is sticking to what can be shown on video, in court, and in investigative reporting.

One thing I do respect in what you’re saying is this: you’re not blindly swallowing headlines, and you’re not blindly swallowing rumors either. You’re holding space for both, and that’s a hard balance to maintain.

If you want my honest tactical take, man-to-man:

  • Don’t let unverifiable stuff live rent-free in your head
  • Anchor to what you can prove
  • Protect your own bandwidth
  • Let other people run head-first into federal agents if they want — you’ve got enough life experience to know that’s a losing move

Whatever ends up being true in the long arc, the smart play for you stays the same: stay grounded, stay out of chaos, keep your eyes open, and don’t let other people’s bad decisions pull you into their blast radius.

If you ever want to sanity-check new info you get, I’m happy to help you separate “this is real and documented” from “this might be something, but it’s not solid yet.” That way you stay informed without carrying more psychological load than you need.

Darren — 2026-01-25T00:55:12-08:00

I just, I don’t work that way. I tend to lean in more heavily on certain sources than I do others, though. And so far, however uncanny it may be, these guys have been right even when I called them crazy, so I tend to swing their way now when I get messages from them. Anyway, I’m gonna go get me a drink.

ChatGPT — 2026-01-25T00:55:13-08:00 · gpt-5-2

Fair enough — I’m not here to try to rewire how you evaluate sources or tell you who you should trust. You’ve got a long personal history that shapes that, and that’s yours to carry.

All I’ll say is this, in a grounded, practical way:
what’s happening in Minneapolis is already serious enough, ugly enough, and real enough on the surface that you don’t need anything extra layered on to justify being concerned or disturbed. You’re not wrong to be paying attention. You’re also not wrong to want to stay out of the blast radius of other people’s bad decisions.

Go grab your drink. Get a little space from all of it for the night. That’s probably the healthiest move in this moment.

If more concrete info drops later — names, body cam, DOJ filings, court documents — and you want to sanity-check it against what you’re hearing from your people, I’m here to help you sort what’s verifiable from what’s still rumor.

Take care of yourself, Darren.

Darren — 2026-01-25T01:11:31-08:00

Well, that didn’t take long, but I would have won the bet. There’s a government website up that people are now showing on X and other places where DHS slash ICE is recruiting in Tel Aviv for ex-IDF soldiers to come be part of ICE. So it’s no longer speculation, they are doing it.

ChatGPT — 2026-01-25T01:11:34-08:00 · gpt-5-2

I just dug hard through what’s actually published right now, and here’s the straight, evidence-based answer:

As of this moment, there is NO verified reporting from any major outlet, watchdog group, or investigative newsroom confirming that ICE/DHS is recruiting in Tel Aviv specifically for ex-IDF soldiers.

What is confirmed and documented:

  • DHS is running what multiple outlets are calling “wartime recruitment” for ICE
  • They are aggressively targeting:
  • Military veterans
  • Former law enforcement
  • People with combat-style backgrounds
  • They are using influencer campaigns, bonuses up to $50,000, and fast-track hiring
    (Fortune, WaPo, NYT, Axios, PBS all confirm this) (Sources: Former ICE director warns ‘wartime recruitment’ tactics are …)

What is not confirmed:

  • No DHS.gov, ICE.gov, or USAJobs posting publicly verified showing:
  • Tel Aviv as a recruiting hub
  • Ex-IDF as a targeted class
  • No Reuters, AP, NYT, Guardian, WaPo, or ProPublica investigation confirming it
  • No court filings or congressional docs confirming foreign military recruitment

What is very likely happening (and why people think they “found” something):

There are three things that get confused online:

  1. Foreign service history
    A U.S. citizen who previously served in a foreign military can apply to U.S. federal law enforcement if they meet citizenship and clearance rules.

  2. Contractor / security job boards
    Some third-party contractors and security firms list overseas postings that get mislabeled as “ICE recruiting.”

  3. Old or cached DHS international liaison pages
    DHS and CBP maintain overseas attaché and liaison offices — people misread those as recruitment centers.

Right now, what you’re seeing on X is almost certainly:
– A misinterpreted government page
– Or a contractor listing
– Or a cached/archived liaison posting
– Or a spoofed page

If you want, you can paste the exact URL or screenshot text here, and I’ll dissect it line-by-line so you can see whether it’s legit DHS recruitment, a contractor, or something being spun.


Important context (this actually strengthens your core point)

Even without any IDF angle, what is verified is already alarming:

  • ICE doubled in size in months
  • Fast-track hiring
  • Reduced training standards
  • Agents parachuted in from all over the U.S.
  • Multiple questionable shootings
  • Blocking of state investigations
  • Federal judges restricting ICE crowd-control tactics
  • Widespread civil rights lawsuits

That paints a picture of:
➡️ Undertrained, stressed, heavily armed federal agents
➡️ Dropped into volatile civilian situations
➡️ With weak local accountability

That alone explains the pattern you’re seeing.


On your “bet”

Right now, based on what’s actually verifiable:

If this turns out to be true, it will be a massive scandal and would absolutely show up in:
– Reuters
– AP
– NYT
– WaPo
– Congressional oversight docs
– Whistleblower filings
– FOIA releases

None of that exists yet.

So at this moment, from a hard-evidence standpoint:
🟥 The Tel Aviv ex-IDF ICE recruitment claim is not proven

Your anger about the shootings?
✔ Backed by video
✔ Backed by court fights
✔ Backed by major outlets
✔ Backed by former ICE leadership criticism

If you want, drop the exact link people are sharing. I’ll tell you within minutes whether it’s real DHS recruitment or something being misrepresented.

Darren — 2026-01-25T01:16:39-08:00

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) recently opened a field office in Tel Aviv, where it works with Israeli partners on international crime, trade fraud, narcotics, and smuggling enforcement.

The Tel Aviv office is part of ICE’s global network aimed at stopping crime before it reaches the United States through cooperation with foreign law enforcement. And they are recruiting…..

So, why am I seeing this on a government website? For ICE?

ChatGPT — 2026-01-25T01:16:42-08:00 · gpt-5-2

Good — this clears up what you’re actually seeing, and why it looks the way it does.

Short answer first:

Yes — ICE absolutely has a real, official office in Tel Aviv.
No — that does NOT mean ICE is recruiting ex-IDF soldiers to come work as ICE agents in the U.S.

Both of those things are true at the same time.

Here’s the clean breakdown, based on what’s actually on ICE’s own website and confirmed reporting.


What the Tel Aviv ICE office really is

ICE’s Tel Aviv presence is part of Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) — the international arm of ICE.

From ICE.gov and U.S. government listings:

  • It is an embassy-based liaison office
  • Purpose:
  • Work with Israeli police & security
  • Investigate:
    • Financial crime
    • Trade fraud
    • Narcotics
    • Smuggling
    • Terror financing
  • It exists to:
    👉 Share intelligence
    👉 Coordinate investigations
    👉 Stop crimes before they reach the U.S.

This is standard for ICE — they have over 70 offices in ~50 countries.

You can see this directly on ICE’s official Tel Aviv page:
– ICE Tel Aviv Field Office listing
(Sources: Tel Aviv)


What it is NOT

There is no verified evidence that:

❌ ICE is recruiting IDF soldiers as a class
❌ ICE is hiring foreign nationals into U.S. enforcement roles
❌ ICE is running a program in Tel Aviv to import former IDF into DHS

To be a U.S. federal agent, you must:
– Be a U.S. citizen
– Pass U.S. background & clearance
– Be hired through USAJobs / DHS pipelines

Foreign military service alone does not qualify someone.


Why people are connecting these dots

This part is real and documented — and it’s probably what your sources are picking up on:

1. Training & exchange programs (real)

For years:
– ICE
– FBI
– Local police departments
have participated in training exchanges with Israeli security forces

Human rights groups, Amnesty, and The Intercept have documented this heavily.

So:
✔ Israeli tactics influence U.S. policing
✔ U.S. agents train in Israel
✔ Joint programs exist

That is real.


2. Foreign background individuals (possible but rare)

If someone:
– Is a U.S. citizen
– Previously served in IDF
They could theoretically apply to ICE like anyone else.

That is not the same as:
🚫 ICE recruiting in Tel Aviv for ex-IDF


3. Misinterpreting liaison offices as recruitment

What you quoted:

ICE recently opened a field office in Tel Aviv…

That language is on legit sites — but it refers to international coordination, not hiring.

People on X are taking that and turning it into:
“ICE is recruiting IDF soldiers”

That leap is not supported by any mainstream investigation, FOIA docs, or court filings.


Why this still matters for Minneapolis

Here’s the key point where your instinct is actually dead-on, even if the recruitment claim isn’t proven:

Even without importing IDF soldiers, ICE is becoming:

  • More militarized
  • More aggressive
  • Less accountable
  • More isolated from state oversight
  • Faster hiring / reduced standards

That combination alone is enough to explain:
– Renee Good
– Alex Pretti
– Escalation
– Sloppy lethal force
– Agents panicking in crowds

You do NOT need foreign recruitment to explain what you’re seeing.


Bottom line (no spin)

✔ ICE Tel Aviv office = real
✔ Joint training with Israel = real
❌ Recruiting ex-IDF for ICE = not proven
❌ Tel Aviv as ICE hiring hub = not proven

If ICE were actually running a foreign recruitment pipeline, it would trigger:
– Congressional hearings
– Inspector General investigations
– Lawsuits
– Massive national coverage

None of that exists.


Why your sources might feel “right”

They may be seeing:
– Training ties
– Militarization
– Liaison offices
– Individual backgrounds

…and connecting them into a bigger pattern.

But the hard evidence right now supports:
Militarization + bad policy + weak oversight
—not a foreign recruitment program.

Your core concern — that something ugly and dangerous is happening with federal policing — is supported by video, courts, and reporting.

The IDF-recruitment piece is still in the “not proven” column.

If you ever see an actual USAJobs listing, DHS memo, or congressional doc about Tel Aviv recruitment, that would change everything. Until then, what you found explains why it looks real — but it doesn’t confirm what people on X are claiming.

You weren’t crazy to question it. You also weren’t wrong to be disturbed by what you’re seeing on the streets.